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Why God Won't Go Away - Andrew Newberg
« on: 2003-09-18 16:36:29 »
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Was hoping for a sound treatment of the topic. 

Should have paid attention to the publisher credit, Ballantine Books. (Eeep)

And the fact that there were s-loads of "reviews" on the dustcover, all for a book that is only 2 years old.

Anyway...... YO PEEPS give this one a read. It has some virulent metathreads that need teasing out.

HERMIT. steal a copy, then give it the ole "Evellyn Wood" treatment.

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Re:Why God Won't Go Away - Andrew Newberg
« Reply #1 on: 2003-09-20 15:12:19 »
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An Amazon link for your convenience. The reviews have been mixed, to say the least.

Though I haven't finished it yet, I can already recommend Pascal Boyer's Religion Explained based on hkhenson's review.
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Re:Why God Won't Go Away - Andrew Newberg
« Reply #2 on: 2003-09-22 12:26:22 »
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The principal reviewer is kind. Mr Newberg, as I feign use the title Dr. however 'nobly' he earned said title, does his level best to tear down the walls of scientific rigor.  His skill at critical thinking is criminally negligent and negligable. He commits argumentative fallacy at every turn. His ability to disavow the body scientific of its justly documented, peer reviewable, and repeatable corpus of knowledge would be lamentable were his Jungian style attempts at selling snake oil not immeadiately obvious.

I do not engage in arg. ad Hom. I attack the product, not the person. But if the product is reflective of the mind the person "possesses" then Mr Newberg is a twit, for his work is shit.

I could write a Hermit style dissertation in rebuttal to the myriad points Mr Newberg stumbles through, over and around. I could. I won't. It is not necessary. His work is an obvious apologia.

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Re:Why God Won't Go Away - Andrew Newberg
« Reply #3 on: 2004-09-30 14:37:51 »
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His work is an obvious apologia.

Seemed so to me, too. It has been some time (two years or so), so many of the details are missing in this reconstruction of mine.

What is absolutely clear to me is that scienctists will never get beyond their methodological agnosticism. This is by definition of the transcendent. Yet, what science CAN (and, imho, should) do is give fuel to arguments of plausibility or even of logic against the existence of any god.

This book does the opposite - thus, all it does is lend a little more argumentative ammo to the pitiful and hopefully final struggles of religion. The only good is in the sense of further refining the discussion, of reminding especially the ignorant that all of neurobiology's insights do not make "god go away".

The evil overweighs the good, though, since all religious memeplexes should finally be extinguished for the sake of humanity: When reason already tells us how INSANE it is to believe, all further prolonging of the struggle is unnecessary and any scientific guise just another meme-trick.

Only recommendable as a "know thy enemies"-literature...
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