after reading the above article, i was left wondering about students' study habits. if you have lived on campus during college, what was your study pattern? describe study habits and methods. students and ex-students welcome. off campus students/ex-students are welcome to chime in too.
thought i migt reply to this then hey. i am currently living in on campus accomodation in england at Coventry Univesity. The room isn't particually big but i do get 6 plug sockets. i could definatly do with more though becasue the amount of extension leads i have running off them is amazing, lol. ive got my computer, dvd player, lava lamp, tv, PS2, speakers, monitor, printer, 2nd monitor, wireless hub, switch, lamp, mobile phone charger. any more and theres gonna be a blow somewhere, lol. the room is quite small but i seriously would love to know where the hell ur ment to be able to get a room that big with 9 plug sockets, without just purley renting an entire flat. ive got a sink in my room too, thats all good.
what i usually do while at Uni:
i go to lectures and do the odd bit of coursework here and there, reading up on notes etc. but when not workin im either out, or listening to really loud music on my surround sound DVD player pissing my neighbours off. they decided to wake me up at 2:00 in the morning banging on my door so ill piss em off with music, lol. anyway they shud be cultured in listening to good music like led zepplin and not the awfull stuff they listen too. i use my computer alot to do work and to browse the net.
we have a lan connection to a T1 connection in each room here but half the time its down. a while ago they blocked loadsa stuff so a group of us tunneled trough telnet and exported a linux session from their server so we cud gain access. :-)
anyway my uni room is just pretty standard really not to big not too small. ive gotta go to a networking lecture now
RE: virus: to the students here
« Reply #2 on: 2003-11-21 10:56:43 »
So, currently I'm a senior at Carnegie Mellon, which is one of the most wired campuses in the world. I'm an undergraduate, but I'm in a program that gets me a masters degree in mathematics, and I'm picking up a minor in computer science. That said, I am very, very busy most of the time :]
The extent of the electronic devices I own here are my computer, a couple lights, a scanner, and an electrical piano, and a fan, which is played often by my roomate. The computer is on pretty much continuously, but power consuming components such as the monitor and speakers are off whenever I'm not using them.
I live in an "apartment", (it is a dorm, though) which is shared by four people. And therefore there is a refrigderator, stove, microwave, toaster, blender and such in a common area. The refridgerator and stove are university provided. Additionally, there is a tv and there are gaming systems. Many many gaming systems. (Of which, none I own or have anything to do with for the most part.)
The thing I find peculiar about getting so much electronics is that they turn into so much of a distraction, that it's impossible to focus on studies and other things. Things tend to be advertized such that they seem indispensable, but there's only so much time that you can put into your own crap and still be a student. So often times if electronics are bought in excess, they either are never used, which is bad, or they distract you from everything else, which is also pretty bad...
As for my study habits, I spend most of the time studying at my desk, listening to music on headphones, which effectively tunes everything else out. And that's about the prime way that I get my work done, other things are less effectual. Other housemates work while watching TV. I don't know how they actually are able to do this. My computer is a cross between a stereo, a research tool, and a workbench. Much of the work I do is on the computer, but the mathematics mostly involves books and papers.
Hmmm... (rant rant rant) That's about it, though. Take care :]
after reading the above article, i was left wondering about students' study habits. if you have lived on campus during college, what was your study pattern? describe study habits and methods. students and ex-students welcome. off campus students/ex-students are welcome to chime in too.
[athenonrex] what the crap? why the fucl do these kids need a DVD player in their dorm? you really need a big screen colour TV to study, now dontcha?
it's completely rediculous. when i was going to school i had a back pack? remember those? yeah, in my backpack i had some books and a binder or two. oh, and penciles...i think a pen or two. i have to confess, i did indeed have a portable cd player for my own enjoyment and to block out the outside world while studying. i realize that perhaps an enternainment system can "block out the outside world" for you, but does it help at all with study? of course, studying for me was always more along the lines of reading book X i had for class X.
i'm dumbfounded over this article. school has become more about what kind of luxuries that students can have instead of what they can learn and pursue. i think that's kinda sad.
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I don't live on campus, but I am a college student. As for my study habits, well...I find an hour here, an hour there. I'm not sure how relevant this is, as I'm not studying in the US...
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Re:to the students here
« Reply #5 on: 2003-11-22 15:33:25 »
I'm a sophomore at UMass-Amherst. As for electronics in my dorm room, a double, i have my computer + printer, a clock radio, and my roommate has hers plus her tv and vcr. One of my friends across campus has in addition to this a dvd player, a few gaming consoles, and surround sound. ha. I don't really see anything wrong with bringing things for entertainment purposes as long as it doesn't interfere with your grades and what you came to do.
I'm a microbiology major. I don't find the courseload too heavy. Studying for me usually consists of reading the text and doing problem sets. Like most schools nowadays, we have syllabi posted online which comes in handy. Before exams i usually go over the reading and lecture notes and look at past exams that are posted. Studying usually amounts to a couple hours a night. I have time to work, which is good. I'm a lab assistant in a microbiology lab off campus. I also have time to pursue other interests, such as hiking/climbing/caving, extra reading, etc.
Re:to the students here
« Reply #6 on: 2003-11-24 19:24:49 »
As I am technically not a student, i'm not sure if this counts. I am just actively learning through life experience, some advanced books here and there when I have the time, random googling, and of course from my freaky brethren, how are you guys? So far I have learnt more about the world than in my last few years at college. I am looking forward to Uni next year, I will not have a TV as it will cost me a lot of money, do you people not have to pay for a TV license over there or what? I will fill my room with a computer, a new 2.8Ghz laptop, plantlife, and fresh fruit. It will be clean, and I will actually cook food, rather than lumping some shit into a microwave, I will learn as much as I can, hopefully all the info will come thick and fast, just the way i like it. (As things, if they start to drag get boring and I will lose my enthusiasm for the subject) And at the end of it all I will have an average grade, for an average student, but hopefully I will have made a marked impression on my comrades, either that or some sort of stain on their floor that they will not be able to remove, and will have to cover up with a tall lamp, which will look distinctly out of place, and will be mentioned whenever they have guests around....just to remember me by.
Re:to the students here
« Reply #7 on: 2003-11-25 01:28:18 »
I'm going to College here, off campus. I study about an hour for every class period I have. Which seems to work out pretty well for me.
I have some equipment in my room. A sound system, my computer, videogame consoles, TV, yedeeyada. Although none of these have been bought while I was going to school. All the stuff I have is mainly from the job I had 4 years ago. Since then other problems have come up to make it so I cannot really afford to spend much money on entertainment and such. Although I must admit I splurged and bought myself Final Fantasy 11 recently.
College for me so far has seemed like wasted time. Not because it's not going to get me somewhere, but because I haven't really been challenged and I haven't learnt much of anything from being there. My friend Kevin has gone there for 5 years now, as a computer science major (same as me) and overall I believe I know more about computer science and can write code at the same level, if not higher then him. Too bad everyone requires a stupid peice of paper to get a good job. Pffft! But that's a whole 'nother subject.
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Re: virus:to the students here
« Reply #8 on: 2003-11-25 17:20:48 »
[ElvenSage]
College for me so far has seemed like wasted time. Not because it's not going to get me somewhere, but because I haven't really been challenged and I haven't learnt much of anything from being there.
[athenonrex]
yeah, i continually got that impression at college too. of course, i was only attending a community college, but that community college has one of the most respected music programs of any community college in CA, better than some 4-year colleges that promote their music programs. even so, as a student majoring in music theory/composition with an emphasis on writing music for multiple instruments using the principals of harmony (i'd really like to get into video game music or maybe movie scoring), the classes seemed not to be challenging enough for me.
even as this is one of the most respected community colleges in the whole state, i get the impression that the overall standards in schools in general have been lowered.
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Re: virus: Re:to the students here
« Reply #9 on: 2003-11-25 20:23:44 »
At 11:28 PM 24/11/03 -0700, ElvenSage wrote:
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>College for me so far has seemed like wasted time. Not because it's not >going to get me somewhere, but because I haven't really been challenged >and I haven't learnt much of anything from being there. My friend Kevin >has gone there for 5 years now, as a computer science major (same as me) >and overall I believe I know more about computer science and can write >code at the same level, if not higher then him. Too bad everyone requires >a stupid peice of paper to get a good job. Pffft! But that's a whole >'nother subject.
You are seriously missing the point of going to college.
I didn't understand it myself when I went, but years later when I got involved with space colonies/L5 Society and spent time at Princeton and MIT I figured it out. What is significant is *who you get to know.*
People are *social* primates. College is an opportunity to form social contacts with people who can help you and that you can help as well for the rest of your life.
There are other ways of getting social contacts and those work ok too. This "place" is one of them. You can build a reputation for being a nice person (in the Tit-for-Tat sense of not defecting first as well as the more common sense of being pleasant) and a reputation for being reliable and responsible. Often a reputation for being reliable means you turn down a lot of requests rather than say you will when it is likely you can't do something for press of other commitments.
There are darn good reasons deeply rooted in evolutionary psychology to form long term reliable relationships with college pseudo "tribe members". However, such behavior may be largely rooted in psychological traits that you might not have as much control over as you would like to think. It probably doesn't hurt to understand it intellectually as well as from the gut.
This is a subject that could be extended for many pages. Ask questions and make comments if you want this subject expanded upon.
Re:to the students here
« Reply #11 on: 2003-11-27 11:36:50 »
It wasn't until after I got an undergrad degree (B.Sc. EE) that I understood the true purpose of universities is not education but research. Professors have to teach undergrad courses (and often resent the fact) in order to support their true interest, their research. Once you understand this, a lot of related facts make sense.
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Re: virus: Re:to the students here
« Reply #12 on: 2003-11-27 15:51:53 »
[David Lucifer]
It wasn't until after I got an undergrad degree (B.Sc. EE) that I understood the true purpose of universities is not education but research. Professors have to teach undergrad courses (and often resent the fact) in order to support their true interest, their research. Once you understand this, a lot of related facts make sense.
[athenonrex] well...and i'm not saying this just to be contra pro contra, but...
it depends on quite a few things what the "true purpose" of universities is. it firstly depends on the drive of the student as an individual. then you also have to take into acount the area that said student has chosen to place his focus of studies. whereas a student might choose a venue such as Music Theory and Composition as his area of concentration (yeah, that's what i chose...but just for example...), the notion of research being the main interest loses a little foundation. in fact, with each degree sought after in the arts instead of the sciences, it's less likely that the person is going to be after research. science majors- politics, psych, med, comp. sci., etc...- would be more centered in their research, as their fields of interest would require it.
then there is also the intention of the student. why are they after their degree? the honest pursuit of knowledge (increasingly less likely)? or, more commonly (i feel), for job security? familial expectation? there are many reasons why people do go to college and get degrees in various disiplines, not all of which are as pure in motive as yours, david.
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Re: virus: Re:to the students here
« Reply #13 on: 2003-11-27 17:11:17 »
> [athenonrex] > then there is also the intention of the student. why are they after > their degree? the honest pursuit of knowledge (increasingly less > likely)? or, more commonly (i feel), for job security? familial > expectation? there are many reasons why people do go to college and > get degrees in various disiplines, not all of which are as pure in > motive as yours, david.
[Lucifer] I guess I wasn't clear. Of course the undergrads are there to get an education. My point is that universities offer undergrad courses in order to collect tuition fees in order to do their real work of research (or publishing, in the case of the arts).
Re: virus: Re:to the students here
« Reply #14 on: 2003-11-27 23:12:33 »
At 09:36 AM 27/11/03 -0700, you wrote:
>It wasn't until after I got an undergrad degree (B.Sc. EE) that I >understood the true purpose of universities is not education but research. >Professors have to teach undergrad courses (and often resent the fact) in >order to support their true interest, their research. Once you understand >this, a lot of related facts make sense.
Research is certainly one part of the reason for universities. And the higher status the university has the more important research is to the professors. But why do parents value going to one of these places high enough to pay the incredible tab? If you are sending a son there, it is the place he can make the social contacts that will let him do very high status things like become president.
If you are sending a daughter there, she has a chance of marrying one of those upward status sons and having very high status children with excellent chances for survival
The fact that high status people have small numbers of children and that you don't need super high status to survive now has not yet sunk into the genes.
Give it another million years. :-)
But from a student's viewpoint, making those high social contacts are what makes the long run difference be Princeton and State U. Pity I was absolutely clueless about this fact when I could have done something with it.
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