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virus: on a less serious note...
« on: 2003-10-21 11:26:18 »
(i think virus needs something slightly less serious to talk about... if only for a couple of moments...)
now...my beliefs are circumstancial...everyone's beliefs are circumstancial. the thing that seperates me from the average person with any type of beliefs (including non-beliefs) is the fact that i have thought extensively about what i believe and why i believe it, instead of blindly, and blandly, accepting what i was raised with.
that said, i think it's fairly obvious that i'm not a christian...
so does anyone find it weird that i refer to my "other half" as "Jezebel" (biblically, king Ahab's wife....historically, not nearly as bad as the bible makes her out to be...)? firstly to have a pet name for my love that's biblical, secondly to have a pet name that, biblically speaking, is somewhat offensive (though hardly historically offensive)...?
aside from this particular instance of name/pet name calling, i was curious if i was alone in, directly or indirectly, biblically naming someone/something (or, maybe not strictly biblically, perhaps just obscure references of some kind...) curious what other people can/have come up with...
kindly (and seeking a momentary diversion), athenonrex
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RE: virus: on a less serious note...
« Reply #1 on: 2003-10-21 12:44:02 »
I'm not sure what you mean by less serious (as opposed to the level of gravity which doesn't seem to be too heavyhanded.)
But regardless...
You had stated that what separates you from one with any type of belief is that you have thought extensively about your beliefs and why you believe them, instead of accepting them passively.
I highly highly disagree with this claim. The nature of belief systems is a precarious one, and many of my friends have belief systems that are different from mine- even theistic ones. They have *all* (note all, not some, not most, but all) gone through an extensive process by which they have come to their own perception of beliefs and what to believe through doubt, questioning, and ultimately constructing their belief system through analysis of who they are and what they see themselves as needing to believe.
The phase at which I veer off from their systems is fairly early- at the metaphysical question of "is there something more?" (ie, beyond human consciousness, or capability for reasoning) I take the argument it's not something that can be proven either way, and if there is, than there is no sense that can be made of it. I have no use in thoughts of this life being only a shadow of something else, because this life is what I have, and to make it out to be only a figment of something else is to show a supreme disrespect to the natural world that we live in.
Others don't follow the same line of reasoning, or do not wish to, and therefore they construct their beliefs differently.
There are many different types of faiths and ways to follow them, but certain branches of Christianity do in fact encourage rational thought and doubt in their followers. Not all, probably not many, but some.
Often times, things are much more complex than they appear.
RE: virus: on a less serious note...
« Reply #2 on: 2003-10-21 13:02:13 »
Fish, er. Gator On!
Where's Dees when you need him!?! ~o~
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--- Calvin Ashmore <coa@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > > I'm not sure what you mean by less serious (as opposed to the level > of > gravity which doesn't seem to be too heavyhanded.) > > But regardless... > > You had stated that what separates you from one with any type of > belief is > that you have thought extensively about your beliefs and why you > believe > them, instead of accepting them passively. > > I highly highly disagree with this claim. The nature of belief > systems is a > precarious one, and many of my friends have belief systems that are > different from mine- even theistic ones. They have *all* (note all, > not > some, not most, but all) gone through an extensive process by which > they > have come to their own perception of beliefs and what to believe > through > doubt, questioning, and ultimately constructing their belief system > through > analysis of who they are and what they see themselves as needing to > believe. > > The phase at which I veer off from their systems is fairly early- at > the > metaphysical question of "is there something more?" (ie, beyond human > consciousness, or capability for reasoning) I take the argument it's > not > something that can be proven either way, and if there is, than there > is no > sense that can be made of it. I have no use in thoughts of this life > being > only a shadow of something else, because this life is what I have, > and to > make it out to be only a figment of something else is to show a > supreme > disrespect to the natural world that we live in. > > Others don't follow the same line of reasoning, or do not wish to, > and > therefore they construct their beliefs differently. > > There are many different types of faiths and ways to follow them, but > certain branches of Christianity do in fact encourage rational > thought and > doubt in their followers. Not all, probably not many, but some. > > Often times, things are much more complex than they appear. > > -Calvin > > --- > To unsubscribe from the Virus list go to <http://www.lucifer.com/cgi-bin/virus-l>
RE: virus: on a less serious note...
« Reply #3 on: 2003-10-21 16:49:43 »
[athenonrex] aside from this particular instance of name/pet name calling, i was curious if i was alone in, directly or indirectly, biblically naming someone/something (or, maybe not strictly biblically, perhaps just obscure references of some kind...) curious what other people can/have come up with...
[Kalkor] My cat's name is Thalia. I chose it because she entertained me on first sight. When I walked into the humane society, into the room with all the cages, the first thing that hit me was the extreme level of noise that just sounded sorrowful, and fearful, and unhappy in general. And there she was, sitting about 6" back from her cage wall, in that regal posture cats get, sitting on rear haunches with front legs fully extended vertically. As I approached the cage, she stood up, stretched langorously, and sauntered over to the door. Then she said one thing, "prrrrrrrow?" I was hooked! No whining, no crying, with all that noise around her, she seemed unfazed. I have not been disappointed; she's a wonderful emotional anchor and buffer.
RE: virus: on a less serious note...
« Reply #4 on: 2003-10-21 17:45:58 »
> > [athenonrex] > aside from this particular instance of name/pet name calling, i was > curious if i was alone in, directly or indirectly, biblically naming > someone/something (or, maybe not strictly biblically, perhaps just > obscure references of some kind...) curious what other people can/have > come up with... [Blunderov] Sounds to me as if you use Jezebel in an ironic way.
My animals are: (Dogs) Darwin, Hobbes and Thisbe. (Cats)Wednesday, Theroux, Shades, Jessop and Blossom. (Jessop and Blossom weren't named by me.)
My third daughter is known everywhere as Woozle (from Winnie the Pooh) - most people have no idea that she is really Sarah.
you have been FnoRded, may the farce be with you..
RE: virus: on a less serious note...
« Reply #5 on: 2003-10-21 22:38:09 »
[athenonrex] aside from this particular instance of name/pet name calling, i was curious if i was alone in, directly or indirectly, biblically naming someone/something (or, maybe not strictly biblically, perhaps just obscure references of some kind...) curious what other people can/have come up with...
[Kalkor] My cat's name is Thalia. I chose it because she entertained me on first sight. When I walked into the humane society, into the room with all the cages, the first thing that hit me was the extreme level of noise that just sounded sorrowful, and fearful, and unhappy in general. And there she was, sitting about 6" back from her cage wall, in that regal posture cats get, sitting on rear haunches with front legs fully extended vertically. As I approached the cage, she stood up, stretched langorously, and sauntered over to the door. Then she said one thing, "prrrrrrrow?" I was hooked! No whining, no crying, with all that noise around her, she seemed unfazed. I have not been disappointed; she's a wonderful emotional anchor and buffer.
[athenonrex] thalia? sweet. the reference befuddles me at the moment, but i like the name. nice name choice...
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My family names pets based off of Greek mythology. I have a cat, Ichirus. Had a dog named Apollo.
>From: athe nonrex <athenonrex@godisdead.com> >Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com >To: virus@lucifer.com >Subject: RE: virus: on a less serious note... >Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:38:09 -0700 (PDT) > >[athenonrex] >aside from this particular instance of name/pet name calling, i was >curious if i was alone in, directly or indirectly, biblically naming >someone/something (or, maybe not strictly biblically, perhaps just >obscure references of some kind...) curious what other people can/have >come up with... > >[Kalkor] >My cat's name is Thalia. I chose it because she entertained me on first >sight. When I walked into the humane society, into the room with all the >cages, the first thing that hit me was the extreme level of noise that just >sounded sorrowful, and fearful, and unhappy in general. And there she was, >sitting about 6" back from her cage wall, in that regal posture cats get, >sitting on rear haunches with front legs fully extended vertically. As I >approached the cage, she stood up, stretched langorously, and sauntered >over >to the door. Then she said one thing, "prrrrrrrow?" I was hooked! No >whining, no crying, with all that noise around her, she seemed unfazed. I >have not been disappointed; she's a wonderful emotional anchor and buffer. > >[athenonrex] >thalia? sweet. the reference befuddles me at the moment, but i like the >name. nice name choice... > >_____________________________________________________________ >--->Get your free email @godisdead.com >Made possible by Fade to Black Comedy Magazine >--- >To unsubscribe from the Virus list go to ><http://www.lucifer.com/cgi-bin/virus-l>
>From: athe nonrex <athenonrex@godisdead.com> >Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com >To: virus@lucifer.com >Subject: virus: on a less serious note... >Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:26:18 -0700 (PDT) > >(i think virus needs something slightly less serious to talk about... >if only for a couple of moments...) > >now...my beliefs are circumstancial...everyone's beliefs are >circumstancial. the thing that seperates me from the average person >with any type of beliefs (including non-beliefs) is the fact that i >have thought extensively about what i believe and why i believe it, >instead of blindly, and blandly, accepting what i was raised with. > >that said, i think it's fairly obvious that i'm not a christian... > >so does anyone find it weird that i refer to my "other half" as >"Jezebel" (biblically, king Ahab's wife....historically, not nearly >as bad as the bible makes her out to be...)? firstly to have a pet >name for my love that's biblical, secondly to have a pet name that, >biblically speaking, is somewhat offensive (though hardly historically >offensive)...? > >aside from this particular instance of name/pet name calling, i was >curious if i was alone in, directly or indirectly, biblically naming >someone/something (or, maybe not strictly biblically, perhaps just >obscure references of some kind...) curious what other people can/have >come up with... >
i usually wind up calling the woman i am attracted to "Lillith". no just one woman has earned this title, but it is always just one woman at a time who gets it.
what's coming through is alive, what's holding up is a mirror... totally void of hate, and killing me just the same... coming over like a storm again now considerately.
RE: virus: on a less serious note...
« Reply #9 on: 2003-10-22 00:54:48 »
[athenonrex] aside from this particular instance of name/pet name calling, i was curious if i was alone in, directly or indirectly, biblically naming someone/something (or, maybe not strictly biblically, perhaps just obscure references of some kind...) curious what other people can/have come up with...
[Kalkor] My cat's name is Thalia. I chose it because she entertained me on first sight. When I walked into the humane society, into the room with all the cages, the first thing that hit me was the extreme level of noise that just sounded sorrowful, and fearful, and unhappy in general. And there she was, sitting about 6" back from her cage wall, in that regal posture cats get, sitting on rear haunches with front legs fully extended vertically. As I approached the cage, she stood up, stretched langorously, and sauntered over to the door. Then she said one thing, "prrrrrrrow?" I was hooked! No whining, no crying, with all that noise around her, she seemed unfazed. I have not been disappointed; she's a wonderful emotional anchor and buffer.
[athenonrex2] thalia? sweet. the reference befuddles me at the moment, but i like the name. nice name choice...
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Re: virus: on a less serious note...
« Reply #10 on: 2003-10-23 13:32:52 »
[Lyhr of chaos] i usually wind up calling the woman i am attracted to "Lillith". no just one woman has earned this title, but it is always just one woman at a time who gets it.
[athenonrex] lillith...ha....i'm got some really bad history with a girl "named" lillith....more along the lines of, she thinks that she *is* lillith (adam's first wife)....
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Re:virus: on a less serious note...
« Reply #11 on: 2003-10-24 11:26:18 »
Nothing biblical, but you may find my online aliases Amusing...
Lukian (the Wizard), a spell caster from a Dungeons and Dragons cartoon which I saw as a kid and also used as my first password. This is my primary alias, probably being based partially on my middle name (Luke). An extremely unique nick, I have never seen another person with it.
Slider (Slidarius the Great), a play on LoTR's Strider. Probably first used in an online games (games.swirve.com/utopia). I knew about the Time Slider series, but it had no basis for this time Also at a later date discovered to be an graphical user interface thing "Slider" as in windows slider (ie. media player slider), quite amusing. There's a few other Slider's online too.
Nevyn (no one), based on Katherine Kerr's "The Deverry Series", my most recent nick, probably used to phase out Slider, unfortunately it's more common than Slider. (except the no one bit which I have a quite cool use for)
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