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                |  | virus: Treason! Slander! and Defamation! «  on: 2003-09-26 16:46:12 »
 |   |  [Hermit] Having told two people whom you regularly characterize as
 intelligent, fair, experienced and articulate that they are engaging in
 defamation - which you should recognise is always stupid - something seems
 to be out of kilter.
 
 [Jonathan 1] Not at all. There is no deliberate malice on your or Kharin's
 part. I see such things as mistakes, rhetorical devices that are unfair.
 
 
 [Jake]  I am particularly sick of this particular attack meme that seems
 part of the new standard neo-con repertoire.  For example see Ann Coulter's
 title for her new pulp "SLANDER".  Any time they can't or don't want to
 respond to liberal critics, accusing them of "slander" seems like standard
 faire for them.  "Defamation" is simply a variant of the same theme as
 slander is a subset of defamation.  Defamation and slander are not "such
 things as mistakes".  They involve deliberately bad intent and
 misrepresentations (or at least reckless disregard for truth).  As such
 accusing someone of "slander" or "defamation" is no casual matter among
 civilized crowds, since falsely or carelessly doing so is itself
 potentially defamatory.  Obviously as you stated above, Jonathan, you
 didn't even yourself intend to imply such malice.  So the question seems
 all the more pressing, why did you say that if you didn't mean it?  For the
 moment I'm just going to assume it was a bad habit you thoughtlessly picked
 up from your favorite Neo-con commentators.  Maybe Scruton does these
 things too?
 
 Or perhaps I should assume something more sinister?  That this is part of
 your EVIL, HYPOCRITICAL plan to SLANDER CoV members, and TREACHEROUSLY
 destroy our church community!!!!! ;-)
 
 Love,
 
 -Jake
 
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