From: Dr Sebby (drsebby@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu May 06 2004 - 17:03:23 MDT
...considering that the realistic result of turning away from truth seroms
will be physical torture etc. i would say 'yes' to the truth serom
alternatives. they are very very effective by the way...ive experienced it.
the only problem is that people tend to gush on about all sorts of things,
some irrellevant, some misleading...plus slurred speach and lack of
motivation to accurately depict things, intel will be challenged to derive
accurate renditions at times.
DrSebby.
"Courage...and shuffle the cards".
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From: Jei <jei@cc.hut.fi>
Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: Re:virus: War & Peace / Rethinking Iraq
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 23:14:39 +0300 (EEST)
Funnily, I think some day in the future we will be able to scan and read
the brains directly. Even now, we can tell if a subject has knowledge on
a subject by showing a picture and having him on a "brain scanner"
of sorts... Read a story on it someplace a while back..
- There is no reason why memory imprints shouldn't be readable in the
future. The only question is how to interpret them, and perhaps transfer
them to a computer, and "reboot" the human system there.
Some immortality fans here might wish to freeze & donate their brains to
such research use, after their expiration date? :)
As to the treating of prisoners, I think both sides should stick to Geneva
Accords. You can't ask for one thing and do something else yourself when
it comes to these things.
Do you think it's OK if Americans are subjected to questionably working
"truth serums" while held prisoner, against their will?
What goes around, comes around. Americans tend to forget it and lash
out only when "their own prisoners are shown walking on TV" by their
captors- oh god, how humiliated they must have been, and all against
the Geneva Accords... Gosh..
A treaty has meaning when both sides respect it. What would you think
is OK when it comes to the treatment of your son that is caught and
held prisoner? Somehow Americans find this so incredibly hard to think.
I'm sure American prisoners will equally give valuable information to
the other side when suitably tortured.
Why isn't it OK then? - You tell me?
On Thu, 6 May 2004, Dr Sebby wrote:
> ....psychological abuse of Iraqi prisoners apparently HAS resulted in the
> aquisition of valuable information leading to the capture or
neutralization
> of dangerous militants. how much of the burden lies with their own
> extremist/nutcase philosophies? at what point do we stop listening to
what
> captured enemy declare as "inhumane"? In truth, there is nothing evil
about
> their naked bodies or womens underwear...so just because THEY find
> irrational things traumatizing, should our military have to respect these
> things?
>
> ....regardless, this sort of thing cant be done.(unfortunately). for the
> simple reason that it will motivate their forces to do the same with
> captured u.s. soldiers. i still feel that various truth drugs be open to
> administration with suitable medical staff on hand - as these can be very
> productive and provide a substitute approach to information gathering.
>
> DrSebby.
> "Courage...and shuffle the cards".
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