From: Jonathan Davis (jonathan.davis@lineone.net)
Date: Thu May 27 2004 - 08:48:57 MDT
Joe sets out a legitimate and well argued position . He is not advocating
the murder of children or genocide or anything like the sort of things that
for example Palestinian terrorists do deliberately and find passive support
in this forum.
Joe would be entitled to be enraged by some of the things he reads here:
Sympathy for his country's military foes, regular personal attacks against
him, a strong anti-US dogma occupying the mainstream and double standards in
the application of rules and group censure (i.e. people look away or openly
support Irvken whereas when Joe comes anywhere near this level of
vituperation he is chided).
I thought we disagreed with personal attacks on principle, regardless of the
individual's beliefs about how justified their odium? If we are going to
introduce subjective values and arbitrary judgements about who is and is not
worthy of abuse, then we may as well switch to "anything goes" and prepare
to have this digital commons destroyed.
Try and have some respect for diversity, folks. People like Joe and I differ
from the mainstream political views of this micro-culture. If you discuss
political matters, then be prepared to hear from us as members of this
community. If we are so utterly wrong and so many of you regularly claim,
then simply prove us wrong.
It seems that the most shrill denunciations and expressions of outrage are
not based on what Joe says per se, but stem from an inability to suppress
him intellectually.
Kind regards
Jonathan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf Of
rhinoceros
Sent: 27 May 2004 13:20
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: Re:virus: Joe's complaint
[Blunderov to Irvken]
Please consider whether you really wish to be banned. You are under no
compulsion to read, or reply to Joe's posts if you don't wish to.
[rhinoceros]
One can find a lot to be enraged with, out there in the Web, but we usually
don't bother. However, when it comes to a place we consider as "home", and
we think that something incoherent is turning it into a wasteland unable to
make any progress, it is often not enough not to read some posts.
A good question is "whose home"? We'll have to see if there is any way to
figure it out.
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