From: Dr Sebby (drsebby@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu May 20 2004 - 03:15:19 MDT
....at the risk of sounding like an apathetic cynic; what the hell are we 
doing with our war discussions?  when i try to step back and look at the big 
picture, i see a lot of well-intentioned virians contemplating the 
intracacies of a situation, hoping perhaps to find a light at the end of the 
tunnel, or to finally figure out for themselves if one side is right or 
wrong, etc...
...but what if the simple truth is quite tragic?
...what if a hole has been dug that is so deep that only 500 yrs of shit and 
agony will find its resolution?
....the facts
1.   our world population is 6.5 billion and growing exponentially
2.  without proper pre-planned infrastructure, explosive populations shoot 
far ahead of logistics addressing their needs.
3.    we NEVER had a pre-planned infrastucture for our massive world 
population, and efforts at population control are about as unpopular as 
possible.
4.    failure to be prepared for such exponential pop. growth always results 
in massively lopsided resouce allocation.  (the rich get richer, the poor 
get poorer) due to micro-level social phenomena.(nepotism)
5.  with resource allocation as such, basic needs become scarce for the vast 
majority, people become more cutthroat; encouraging #4 even more.
6.  room for kindness etc. fades when it becomes akin to suicide.
7.  people lacking the basic necessities and parenting, seldom focus on 
education.
8.  the percentage and sheer number of the 'terrifyingly uneducated' 
skyrocket.
9.  religion substitutes education (lets face it, it's easier and sounds 
better)
10.  we're fucked beyond function for a long time to come.  and it's gonna 
get lots worse!!
....it's like the guy with a $30,000 a year income who is $150,000 in debt 
with his revolving credit accounts.  use one card to pay off the other 
etc...  unfortunately for the world, the bankruptsy option doesnt exist.
....so whether your on the side of the kikes, or the sand-niggers...the 
japs, the chinks, the dot-heads, the crackers, the injuns, negroes, flips, 
the aboes or the spics; theyre all just a bunch of idiot humans focusing on 
everything BUT the real solutions.   as such, there will never be any 
resolution.  just misery and loss.  which is why the human known as sebby 
wishes he had his own island...but in the meantime, i try to stay out of the 
way of the believers of this and that.
...but what if the simple truth is quite tragic?
...what if a hole has been dug that is so deep that only 500 yrs of shit and 
agony will find its resolution?
DrSebby.
"Courage...and shuffle the cards".
----Original Message Follows----
From: "rhinoceros" <rhinoceros@freemail.gr>
Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: virus: Re:Jerusalem Post promotes genocide?
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 21:20:59 -0600
[Joe Dees]
I am not role-playing, I am merely noting the complete absence of such 
condemnation, wailing and teeth-gnashing on this list when a Palestinian who 
has been recruited, trained, instructed in a target and provided a 
manufactured wearable explosive by an entire cooperative network blows 
himself up in an Israeli school bus, killing scores of children, as happened 
recently (one of hundreds of similar type attacks).  Listening for the 
measured and evenhanded condemnation....listening....listening...(sound of 
crickets, breath of a wisp of breeze in the branches)...
[rhinoceros]
You can't be serious. There is no such thing as Inference by Bargaining. I 
myself have posted the news about suicide bomber attacks first -- when they 
happened. You can't get anywhere by canceling out nastiness. It must be 
tageted on the spot and examined both at the social level and at the level 
of personal responsibility.
To quote Eric. S. Raymond
"The road to hell has often been paved with good intentions. Therefore, evil 
is best recognized not by its motives but by its methods."
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