RE: virus: The Rumsfeld wriggle.

From: Blunderov (squooker@mweb.co.za)
Date: Thu May 13 2004 - 03:07:12 MDT

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    [Blunderov] Fresh red wrigglers. US policy is that Guantanemo Bay prisoners
    are not PoWs and that Iraqi prisoners are.
    Best Regards

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/13/politics/13MILL.html?th
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    General Took Guantánamo Rules to Iraq for Handling of Prisoners
    By TIM GOLDEN and ERIC SCHMITT

    Published: May 13, 2004

    When Maj. Gen. Geoffrey D. Miller arrived in Iraq last August with a team of
    military police and intelligence specialists, the group was confronted by
    chaos.

    In one prison yard, a detainee was being held in a scorching hot shipping
    container as punishment, one team member recalled. An important
    communications antenna stood broken and unrepaired. Prisoners walked around
    barefoot, with sores on their feet and signs of untreated illness. Garbage
    was everywhere.

    Perhaps most important, with the insurgency raging in Iraq, there was no
    effective system at the prisons for wringing intelligence from the
    prisoners, officials said.

    "They had no rules for interrogations," a military officer who traveled to
    Iraq with General Miller said. "People were escaping and getting shot. We
    tried to offer them some very basic recommendations."

    According to information from a classified interview with the senior
    military intelligence officer at Abu Ghraib prison, General Miller's
    recommendations prompted a shift in the interrogation and detention
    procedures there. Military intelligence officers were given greater
    authority in the prison, and military police guards were asked to help
    gather information about the detainees.

    Whether those changes contributed to the abuse of prisoners that grew
    horrifically more serious last fall is now at the center of the widening
    prison scandal.

    General Miller's recommendations were based in large part on his command of
    the detention camp in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, where he won praise from the
    Pentagon for improving the flow of intelligence from terrorist suspects and
    prisoners of the Afghanistan war.

    In Iraq, General Miller's team gave officers at the prisons copies of the
    procedures that had been developed at Guantánamo to interrogate and punish
    the prisoners, according to the officer who traveled with him. Computer
    specialists and intelligence analysts explained the systems they had used in
    Cuba to process information and report it back to the United States.

    General Miller also recommended streamlining the command structure at the
    prisons, much as was done when military intelligence and military police
    units were merged when he took command of Joint Task Force Guantánamo in
    November 2002.

    But to at least a few of the officers who met General Miller in Iraq, the
    Abu Ghraib crisis was partly rooted in what they described as his
    determination to apply his Guantánamo experience in Iraq. Senators raised
    similar concerns on Tuesday at the Armed Services Committee.

    General Miller and some of his former aides have dismissed the notion that
    his visit to Iraq helped unleash the abuses. They argue that if his
    prescriptions had any link to the problems there, it was because they were
    misinterpreted by ineffective commanders in a chaotic environment.

    "When you don't have rules and you let lower-level people decide things on
    an arbitrary and capricious basis, you're going to have problems," the
    officer who accompanied General Miller said. "Our reference to techniques
    was to say, `You need a policy.' "

    A Democratic Senate aide who reviewed General Miller's report on the Iraqi
    prisons said he had sought to revamp the intelligence apparatus in Iraq
    primarily to improve the collection and transmission of broader, strategic
    information about the insurgency that was particularly important to senior
    military officials.

    To those officials, the work at Guantánamo by General Miller, a former
    paratrooper from Menard, Tex., made him an obvious candidate for Iraq.

    By the time he took over in Cuba, most of the detainees there had been in
    custody for nearly a year. Still, General Miller was credited by Pentagon
    officials with using interrogations there to produce a valuable historical
    account of the workings and financing of terrorist training camps in
    Afghanistan, among other subjects, officials said.

    His hard-charging attitude has also raised questions that go beyond
    interrogation methods. He was the official most responsible for pressing a
    case last year against a Muslim chaplain at the base, Capt. James J. Yee,
    that was initially billed as a major episode of espionage. In March, the
    military announced that it would drop all charges.
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