From: Jake Sapiens (every1hz@earthlink.net)
Date: Tue Apr 13 2004 - 14:00:56 MDT
We really have torn this game apart pretty well, almost more than it can
give us. I think Blunderov has made a good point. Something has to give.
Evolution, especially universal Darwinism, seems to dictate struggle. Our
ideals of heaven, while abstractly eternal, when actualized can only exist
as an intermission of some stability in the midst of a greater saga of
struggle, discontent and change. I think if we ever "figure it all out",
its only a matter of time until discontent sets in and someone tries to
change the way things are. Once this happens, unintended consequences
emerge once again changing the whole game and providing us with a fresh
need to figure it all out. Stuart Kauffman in his book "Investigations"
proposes that a major characteristic of life generally from microbes to
humans, is that over time it increases the universe of possibilities - what
can happen next - this being the collective effect of billions of organic
populations increasing their overall fitness. I assert that universal
Darwinism precludes us from ever controlling everything. Each act of
control carries unintended consequences however slight, adding to the
universe that isn't under our control.
-Jake
> [Original Message]
> From: Blunderov <squooker@mweb.co.za>
> To: <virus@lucifer.com>
> Date: 04/13/2004 12:07:44 AM
> Subject: RE: virus: Re:That hell-bound train
>
> Dr Sebby
> Sent: 13 April 2004 07:43 AM
>
> ...a very nice post rhino. i would also wager that notions such as
> these
> are the reason that other intelligent life forms outside of our solar
> system
> arent to be found galavanting around in little star-trek style space
> ships
> for more than say 500 yrs or so in their species lifetime. what will
> we do
> when we control everything? even if we cant actually do something, we
> will
> be able to convince our brains that we have. once we completely master
> biology and most of physics, what will we do? will sport and
> competition
> still remain? it's a very interesting question. will a species-wide
> apathy
> kick in when we finally fit the last important peices to the grand
> jigsaw
> puzzle together? what would be left? "death moment energy
> physics(tm)"?
>
> [Blunderov] You too, Dr Sebby - lovely post.
>
> My thought is that even if all that remains is the arrow-of-time, the
> struggle must continue.
>
> But perhaps you envision dominion over even this?
>
> Best Regards.
>
>
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