From: Blunderov (squooker@mweb.co.za)
Date: Tue Dec 16 2003 - 09:54:58 MST
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On
Behalf
> Of Jonathan Davis
> Sent: 16 December 2003 1641
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: RE: virus: Osama bin Laden and the Bushes (was Saddam
arrested)
>
> Hey Blunderlov,
>
> I don't really get Moore's points.
>
> He asks if the Bush family and Osama bin Laden's family have some
links
> with
> Bush. If they do, so what? If would be virtually impossible to avoid
Saudi
> money if you dealt with the non-Israeli middle east over the last 25
> years.
> This looks like a simple smear attempt by Moore and is as such basing
his
> implied arguments on a fallacy fallacious.
>
> The central question in my opinion, is not about Bush and Bin Laden,
but
> about a multi-decade refusal by various American administrations to
face
> up
> to the nasty horror that is Saudi Arabia? In her new book - Modern
Jihad -
> Loretta Napoleoni shows how every post-war US administration has
squashed
> attempts to investigate the Saudis. I expect this will be a
fascinating
> story when it emerges.
>
> The Bin laden on dialysis story is a feint. He planned and financed
the
> operation before he was sent to (probably die) in his Afghan cave. See
> Operation Holy Tuesday for an in-depth look at the run up to 9/11 and
> Osama's involvement:
>
> http://www.limbicnutrition.com/blog/archives/020958.html
[Blunderov]
Hey Jonathan! Nice post - thoughtful. There is much in what you say
about the 'multi-decade refusal by various American administrations to
face up to the nasty horror that is Saudi Arabia' as you so well put it.
Sadly, as is pointed out by Moore, this is itself part of a larger
pattern in which the USA, lover of freedom and democracy, has
consistently supported the most atrocious dictatorships, including
Saddam, and even gone so far as to subvert and overthrow perfectly
legitimate democratic governments when expedient. Perhaps this is quite
simply the way all empires are built and maintained and the US is no
less immune to this than any previous empire. Pity.
With regard to OBL, it seems that Moore was incorrect in asserting that
the bin Ladens were evacuated during the air travel lockdown. Otherwise
I have not, so far, located any other inaccuracy in this context.
Whether OBL is dead or not remains to be seen. There have, subsequent to
9/11, been sporadic tapes allegedly starring OBL but who can tell if
they are real? Me, I thought Saddam was long dead, but apparently he
isn't.
Still, it does seem strange that the US was unable to find OBL.
Best Regards
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