From: Kalkor (kalkor@kalkor.com)
Date: Tue Nov 11 2003 - 15:15:41 MST
[Erik]
No that is an issue of overlapping integrity. You promise to yourself, you
friends and your family that you will survive. You lie to your captors...as
a last resort.
Sometimes you are put in a situation where you feel you must break one
virtue in order to uphold another.
In those times you can use you other Virian virtues.
Vision - imagining a future which inspires me, which of these actions is
consistent with that vision?
[Kalkor]
I have a lack of integrity because of my lie to my captors. I have integrity
because of trying to keep the promise to myself and my loved ones that I
will survive.
However, at no time have I been hypocritical. My internal desire is to
escape, and it's pragmatic of me to do whatever needs to be done to have
that happen.
Thus, at the same time, I have failed to have integrity but I have never
become hypocritical.
I think hypocrisy should continue to be a virian sin because it prevents
rational, efficacious, or pragmatic action.
I do not think integrity should be a virian virtue because it does not have
to necessarily follow in the absence of hypocrisy. In addition, you can be
absolutely irrational and yet at the same time have a sort of integrity to
the irrationality. I think this is very undesireable in our context, and
integrity should be left off the list.
Good discussion tho ;-}
Kalkor
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