From: Kirk Steele (ksteele42@yahoo.com)
Date: Sun Oct 19 2003 - 17:03:56 MDT
From: "David McFadzean" <david@lucifer.com>
Subject: Re: virus: virus chat #virus de-opping
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:06:40 -0700
There were valid reasons to remove you from the op list of the #virus channel. Are you sure you want to discuss this on the mailing list?
David
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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:00:15 -0600
Subject: Re:virus: virus chat #virus de-opping
From: "irvken" <hidden@lucifer.com>
er... so what was the valid reason whyI was removed?
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Let us put some more facts on the table at the time of their occurrence.
First stipulate the given: None of this has entered the forum domain for public consideration.
Mermaid chased Hermit into a “previously agreed upon by both parties” private haven, for Hermit that is #rats.
Hermit asked her to leave as she was in violation of the convention. She persisted. He kbanned her. She went back to #virus where she began defamatory chat against him. He noticed this. He called her on it in forum. She persisted. He kbanned her there. Somebody objected and summarily unbanned her against the stricture of the “immediate action” precepts of DiP and Wiki protocol.
All the while Lucifer is chatting Hermit. All the while Lucifer is aware of what is going on. All the while Lucifer decidedly avoids intervention.
When Lucifer is called on this avoidant behavior, he is informed that a third party will put a cease to the hostilities and does so. The response included “…fine, I’m out of here…”
Now let’s discuss it.
From: "David McFadzean" <david@lucifer.com>
Subject: Re: virus: virus chat #virus de-opping
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:06:40 -0700
There were valid reasons to remove you from the op list of the #virus channel. Are you sure you want to discuss this on the mailing list?
David
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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:00:15 -0600
Subject: Re:virus: virus chat #virus de-opping
From: "irvken" <hidden@lucifer.com>
er... so what was the valid reason whyI was removed?
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Let us put some more facts on the table at the time of their occurrence.
First stipulate the given: None of this has entered the forum domain for public consideration.
Mermaid chased Hermit into a “previously agreed upon by both parties” private haven, for Hermit that is #rats.
Hermit asked her to leave as she was in violation of the convention. She persisted. He kbanned her. She went back to #virus where she began defamatory chat against him. He noticed this. He called her on it in forum. She persisted. He kbanned her there. Somebody objected and summarily unbanned her against the stricture of the “immediate action” precepts of DiP and Wiki protocol.
All the while Lucifer is chatting Hermit. All the while Lucifer is aware of what is going on. All the while Lucifer decidedly avoids intervention.
When Lucifer is called on this avoidant behavior, he is informed that a third party will put a cease to the hostilities and does so. The response included “…fine, I’m out of here…”
Now let’s discuss it.
David McFadzean <david@lucifer.com> wrote: There were valid reasons to remove you from the op list of the #virus channel. Are you sure you want to discuss this on the mailing list?
David
----- Original Message -----
From: Kirk Steele
To: virus@lucifer.com
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 11:53 AM
Subject: virus: virus chat #virus de-opping
Can anyone explain why the op list was trucated en extrimis and done so in an arbitrary manner and done so without public dislosure?
David "Lucifer" McFadzean, what do you know of this?
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