From: Alexander Vavrek (nimbustheme@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Oct 16 2003 - 01:17:35 MDT
who says that the existance of god has to be attached to some reasonable
consequence? perhaps i am misinterpreting, but by reasonable consequence, i
infer that you mean, say, karma, or that when one "sins" there are
repercussions.
well, that is only true if god cares to interfere with what is already going
on. i'm not argueing that the judeo-christian god exists, nor that god is
benevolent, nor that god is intelligent, nor omniscient, nor that god gives
a shit what we do....
just that an entity beyond our comprehension, existing outside time and all
other dimensions we understand, exists.
something cannot come from nothing. this is fact. therefore, as we exist,
this proves that at one point in time (or feesably at the end of or before
time) a god existed. it might not have been a sentient entity, but there at
one time was a "god".
if energy never goes away, that means that on a cosmic scale, nothing ever
truly dies, it just transmutes. our bodies and consciousnesses may fall
away and rot back to their original building blocks, but this doesn't mean
it goes away. just that it undergoes radical change.
next, envision what reality would be like outside of space and time. remove
all the empty space from between the nucleaus and the electron cloud, from
inbetween atoms, etc, and what is left is a matrix of energy. reinsert
space/time, and that same entity exists, but has come to experiance all of
its individual aspects subjectively for more perspective.
my actual theory is that god fractalized itself for the purpose of learning
greater understanding. that god as a localized phenomenon doesn't happen,
and if it ever should, would mean the end of reality as we comprehend it.
well, i understand that this is an anthropomorphised view, but as a human
entity i cannot conscieve of things in a fashion outside what i am capable
of comprehending.
>From: "David Lucifer" <david@lucifer.com>
>Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
>To: virus@lucifer.com
>Subject: Re: virus: Atheism, Reasonables, Scientists
>Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:56:41 -0600
>
>[simul] I think it's too hard to disprove God...
>
>[Lucifer] Actually it is easy to disprove God with modus tollens>>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modus_tollens
>
>If God exists, then <some reasonable consequence>
><some reasonable consequence> is not true
>Therefore God does not exist
>
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