From: Jonathan Davis (jonathan.davis@lineone.net)
Date: Sun Oct 05 2003 - 16:54:27 MDT
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From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf Of
Hermit
Sent: 04 October 2003 22:56
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: virus: Re:The Disciplinary Process of the Church of Virus
[Jonathan Davis] You failed to understand me and your post is too far off
the mark to help you get it. I will exert my influence elsewhere.
[Hermit] Is this meant to communicate something?
[Jonathan 2] Yes, you failed to understand me. Your post is too far off the
mark to help you get it. I will exert my influence elsewhere.
[Jonathan Davis] I suppose you might say that I know of a certain member who
has activated the disciplinary procedure for what I consider a petty and
possibly spiteful reasons. I consider this abuse. The system is obliged to
consider this persons claims, however silly, and that ties up resources of
reputable members. I would like to see the system improved to limit this
sort of situation.
[Hermit] Have you ever heard of the "broken Windows theory"? It is a proven
police methodology. It is because of this that I would like to see every
infraction, however small, dealt with by means of the "Disciplinary
Process." Usually, when valid grounds are established, only resulting in an
"acknowledgement." This makes it not only unneccesary for a person
perceiving a "swipe" at them to respond, but also means that they too will
consider an on-list response carefully, lest it result in a "Disciplinary
Process" being instituted for them.
[Hermit] Within a very short time, the members will tidy up their acts, and
our environment will become a much more pleasant place for all, enabling us
to pursue our larger goals more effectively. A highly recommended article
which explains the psychology behind this is "Broken Windows"
(http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/crime/windows.htm).
[Jonathan 2] I like the article on my blog last year [
http://www.ukpoliticsmisc.org.uk/weblog/archive/2002_10_25_old.php#85601645
] . Coincidentally, It was October of 2002. Just under one year ago.
I recommend you read a criticism of the theory (for balance):
Policing Disorder - Can we reduce serious crime by punishing petty offences?
[http://www.bostonreview.net/BR27.2/harcourt.html].
[Jonathan Davis] On a personal level, your apparent deep involvement in the
system makes me distrust it.
[Hermit] The request was to keep the replies impersonal, so your comment is
off-topic. In addition, while you are welcome to hold any opinions you like,
expressing negative opinions of other members is not part of what this
community stands for.
[Jonathan 2] I will decide for myself what this community stands for.
Furthermore, my comment was a personal aside to you about an attitude of
mine. It is a relevant truth that may aid your understanding of me and so
further our goals of empathy, vision and reason.
Kind regards
Jonathan
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