From: Hermit (virus@hermit.net)
Date: Fri Sep 26 2003 - 18:06:57 MDT
Okey dokey, once and future archvector (and very arch you could be too, as I recall). I've opened the bidding on you as a pillar. Will you be comfortable standing up there in the thin air? How did the song go? It's a long, long way to fall...
Apropos of something, when using the system, just rate people as how you see their value to the CoV. Trying to adjust the pecking order is something the system does automatically simply because there are now enough of us voting for it to be very difficult for any one member to change another's ratings. And it is much easier to squelch the reputations of others downstream of you to boost them or yourself. Which means that trying to play tit-for-tat and other political games is quickly spotted and results in the player sinking rapidly in the esteem of their peers. Attempting to maximize your own score is a fools game, as those around will notice such efforts and you will probably end up lower on the tree than you would otherwise be (easier to push people down than lift them up).
I recommend penalizing members who do not vote, do not rate others and do not participate in some or all of our forums, but that is a personal recommendation, not a rule.
Regards
Hermit
PS The following two fragments may interest some here. The first is a shell script to produce the second, which is simply a cvs file of all the information relating to reputations and voting. The simplest way to use it is to simply import it into a spreadsheet.
Please do not run the script more frequently than once a day, as it imposes a severe server load.
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#!/bin/sh
#
#
#Returns in CVS format to r, sorted by Reputation:
#userName, Reputation, Influence, Equity, userID, Board Name
#
wget -O - http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/index.php?action=repIndex | sed -n 's!.*<a href=.*user=\\([^>]*\\)>\\([^<]*\\)</a>.*userID=\\([0-9]*\\)>\\([.0-9]*\\)</a>.*q=e.*>\\([.0-9]*\\)</a>.*right>\\([.0-9]*\\).*!\\2,\\4,\\5,\\6,\\3,\\1!p' | sed 's![ ]!!g' | sort -t , -k 2nr,2 > repIndex
#
# Returns reputation pages
#
cat repIndex | cut -d , -f 5 | sed 's!\\(.*\\)!wget -O tmpvote http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/index.php?board=;action=repProfile;userID=\\1!' > getRepVotes
#
# Clear files
#
rm -rf reps
rm -rf tots
touch reps
touch tots
#
# Get Individual Votes and Totals
#
while read line
do
rm -rf tmpvote
touch tmpvote
`$line`
cat tmpvote | sed -n 's!.*=right>[^<]*.*=right>\\([^<]*\\).*=right>[^<]*.*=right>\\([^<]*\\).*=right>[^<]*.*=right>\\([^<]*\\).*=right>[^<]*.*=right>\\([^<]*\\).*=right>[^<]*.*=right>\\([^<]*\\).*=right>[^<]*.*=right>\\([^<]*\\).*=right>[^<]*.*=right>\\([^<]*\\).*=right>[^<]*.*=right>\\([^<]*\\).*=right>[^<]*.*=right>\\([^<]*\\).*=right>\\([^<]*\\).*!\\1,\\2,\\3,\\4,\\5,\\6,\\7,\\8,\\9,!p' >> reps
cat tmpvote | sed -n 's!.*total.*=right>\\([^<]*\\).*!\\1!p' >> tots
done < getRepVotes
#
# Joins voting totals to distribution, replaces missing values with 0 and strips spaces
#
paste reps tots | sed 's![\\t]!!g' | sed '$!N;s!\\n!,!' | sed ':a s!^,!0,!;s!,,!,0,!g;ta' > repVotes
#
# Create single Reputation and Voting Data
#
paste -d , repIndex repVotes > repAll
#
# Format of RepAll
#
# userName, Reputation, Influence, Equity, userID, Board Name,\\
# How User Rated Others 1..9, Total \\
# How Others Rated User 1..9, Total
#
# Get poll history (how many votes placed) for all voters.
#
wget -O - http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/index.php?action=voteIndex | sed -n 's!.*<a href=\\(.*=voteResults;[^>]*\\)>\\([^<]*\\).*!\\1!p' | wget -O - -i - | sed -n 's!.*Voters: \\([^<]*\\).*!\\1!p' | sed 's!\\([^,]*\\),!\\1\\n!g' | sed 's! !!g' | sort -k 2,2 | sed -n ':x;p;n;/./bx;:z;n;/./!bz;i\\' | sort | uniq -c > pollData
#
# Append Poll Voting History to repAll
#
echo "BBSName","Reputation","Influence","Equity","ID","SystemName",1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,"Tot",1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,"Tot","Polls" > VirianDb
while read line
do
echo $line,0`grep \\`echo $line | /bin/cut -d , -f 1\\`$ pollData | /bin/cut -f 1 | sed 's![ ]!!g'` >> VirianDb
done < repAll
# Format of VirianDb
#
# userName, Reputation, Influence, Equity, userID, Board Name,\\
# How User Rated Others 1..9, Total \\
# How Others Rated User 1..9, Total \\
# Number of times User has voted
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<<<<<Just Cut and Paste From Below This Line To the End of The File And Save it As VirianDb.cvs>>>>
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BBSName,Reputation,Influence,Equity,ID,SystemName,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,Tot,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,Tot,Polls
DavidLucifer,8.6648,35.36,15.25,1,admin,0,1,1,0,6,16,9,11,4,48,0,0,0,1,1,0,1,8,34,45,032
rhinoceros,7.9836,18.23,7.86,418,rhinoceros,0,0,1,2,13,8,11,10,4,49,1,0,0,0,5,1,8,9,17,41,032
JakeSapiens,7.8267,15.65,6.75,1404,JakeSapiens,2,0,0,0,12,10,9,10,6,49,0,0,1,1,3,6,7,7,14,39,027
Kharin,7.8202,15.55,6.71,1788,Kharin,3,0,0,6,19,7,2,1,10,48,0,0,1,0,7,4,5,9,14,40,028
Zloduska,7.5306,11.73,5.06,28,kjseelna@students.wisc.edu,1,0,1,0,0,0,2,8,11,23,0,0,1,1,7,7,5,8,12,41,011
Hermit,7.2798,9.19,3.96,3,Hermit,2,2,1,5,11,4,1,0,23,49,2,2,1,5,5,2,3,6,17,43,032
WalterWatts,7.1585,8.17,3.52,4,Walter,0,0,0,0,25,2,2,5,13,47,0,0,0,0,10,5,4,12,10,41,032
Blunderov,6.9842,6.89,2.97,1830,Macheeide,0,1,1,0,0,0,3,6,10,21,0,1,0,0,16,6,2,6,6,37,026
Tywick,6.8562,6.09,2.63,419,Tywick,2,0,0,0,0,0,13,3,9,27,0,0,0,1,13,5,8,5,8,40,07
RavenBlack,6.8500,6.05,2.61,5,raven@ravenblack.net,1,0,0,1,6,8,2,3,3,24,0,0,0,1,10,4,5,4,6,30,026
Kalkor,6.7987,5.75,2.48,213,kalkor@kalkor.com,0,1,1,0,12,25,3,1,1,44,0,1,0,0,6,8,11,9,4,39,023
DrSebby,6.7946,5.73,2.47,13,drsebby@hotmail.com,0,0,4,0,4,4,0,4,5,21,0,0,0,1,12,5,13,4,7,42,030
Sat,6.7371,5.42,2.34,1604,Bolverker,1,1,1,9,13,9,3,3,6,46,0,0,1,3,14,2,7,7,5,39,029
ElvenSage,6.6903,5.18,2.23,1355,elvensage,0,1,0,7,23,3,8,1,5,48,1,0,0,1,5,11,4,9,10,41,031
Mermaid,6.6388,4.93,2.12,1877,Mermaid,0,0,0,0,18,4,10,7,10,49,0,0,0,0,3,0,4,3,8,18,018
thebricoleur,6.4721,4.19,1.81,1372,Bricoleur,0,0,1,0,21,9,3,4,3,41,0,0,0,1,18,3,5,4,3,34,027
JonathanDavis,6.3997,3.90,1.68,1337,limbic11,0,0,0,0,18,2,18,5,3,46,1,0,1,2,11,3,6,6,8,38,08
localroger,6.3443,3.70,1.60,1692,localroger,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,3,0,4,0,0,0,0,15,10,3,5,3,36,01
michelle,6.2984,3.54,1.53,161,michelle@barrymenasherealtors.com,0,0,0,3,18,4,3,6,7,41,0,0,0,1,14,7,5,8,3,38,0
LukianTheWizard,6.1925,3.19,1.38,1405,Lukian,0,0,0,0,16,9,4,9,9,47,0,0,0,0,16,7,7,4,3,37,09
irvken,6.1900,3.18,1.37,1356,irvken,4,5,5,5,4,4,5,4,4,40,0,0,0,2,12,11,6,3,3,37,023
crw,6.1796,3.15,1.36,1853,crw,0,0,0,1,16,16,6,1,1,41,0,0,0,1,12,1,8,2,2,26,0
Hermitess,6.1633,3.10,1.34,387,Hermitess,2,0,0,0,4,14,6,10,13,49,1,1,0,1,15,11,3,3,5,40,030
Flux,6.1216,2.98,1.28,1588,Flux,0,0,1,2,29,7,8,1,1,49,1,0,0,2,14,7,7,2,4,37,023
Ophis,6.1111,2.95,1.27,1567,Sophia,0,0,1,1,19,14,5,3,2,45,0,0,0,2,16,5,5,3,5,36,031
outlawpoet,6.0212,2.70,1.17,1823,outlawpoet,1,0,1,1,17,3,4,1,13,41,0,0,0,1,20,6,5,1,4,37,030
JerryLee,5.9563,2.54,1.09,42,jerrylee@alt.net,0,0,0,0,3,0,0,0,0,3,0,0,2,0,19,10,3,1,5,40,012
Kid-A,5.8623,2.31,1.00,1700,Kid-A,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,47,49,1,0,0,1,14,9,6,4,3,38,030
Casey,5.8198,2.22,0.96,159,cmanisca@hotmail.com,2,0,2,0,30,3,4,1,5,47,0,1,0,1,7,3,5,2,3,22,022
referent,5.7737,2.12,0.92,1831,referent,0,1,0,0,28,5,8,2,1,45,0,1,0,0,17,8,5,3,1,35,031
jubungalord,5.7393,2.05,0.89,1725,jubungalord,0,0,0,0,3,0,0,0,0,3,1,0,0,0,25,5,4,2,1,38,04
nrv8,5.7366,2.05,0.88,1452,nrv8,0,0,0,0,3,0,0,0,0,3,0,1,0,2,17,8,7,4,1,40,03
kirksteele,5.6886,1.95,0.84,1162,ksteele42@yahoo.com,0,0,0,1,38,3,1,4,2,49,0,0,0,0,1,0,3,1,4,9,0
se7en,5.6273,1.84,0.79,2,se7en,0,0,0,0,0,0,3,0,3,6,0,0,0,0,12,2,1,0,4,19,01
romanov,5.5924,1.78,0.77,1872,romanov,0,0,0,1,43,0,0,2,1,47,0,0,0,1,7,2,1,0,2,13,01
prometheus,5.5727,1.75,0.75,1801,prometheus,0,0,0,4,32,2,4,4,2,48,0,0,0,3,23,4,0,3,1,34,028
celindra,5.5290,1.67,0.72,1822,celindra,0,0,1,0,14,15,3,4,0,37,0,0,1,1,21,4,3,1,2,33,07
Feagwath,5.5216,1.66,0.72,141,aaron@fish.co.jp,2,0,0,0,0,1,3,1,3,10,0,1,0,1,16,8,1,0,4,31,020
Pedro,5.4178,1.50,0.65,1848,Pedro,0,0,1,0,1,0,6,9,2,19,0,0,1,1,21,6,1,0,2,32,0
Smucker,5.3376,1.39,0.60,1857,Smucker,0,0,0,2,0,0,0,2,2,6,0,0,0,2,17,2,0,0,2,23,022
goomba,5.2946,1.33,0.57,1824,goomba,0,0,2,1,35,3,2,0,1,44,0,0,2,0,19,10,1,1,2,35,030
tabsa,5.2219,1.24,0.54,1841,tabsa,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2,2,0,0,0,1,17,1,1,0,2,22,04
opsima,5.1642,1.17,0.51,184,coa@andrew.cmu.edu,0,0,0,1,24,0,8,4,6,43,0,0,0,1,25,2,0,0,2,30,026
Rhysenn,5.1642,1.17,0.51,1707,Rhysenn,0,0,0,0,22,9,3,2,0,36,0,1,0,3,25,4,2,0,1,36,011
athenonrex,5.1094,1.11,0.48,183,athenonrex@godisdead.com,0,0,0,0,3,0,0,0,0,3,2,1,0,1,21,8,4,1,1,39,01
RD,5.0475,1.05,0.45,175,jamesak23@yahoo.com,0,0,0,0,3,0,0,0,0,3,0,0,1,2,31,2,0,0,1,37,09
Warlock,5.0279,1.03,0.44,1856,Warlock104,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,0,2,17,2,1,0,1,23,026
Demon,3.5003,0.23,0.10,1737,Demon,4,1,1,2,18,0,7,3,2,38,7,2,5,3,13,2,5,1,1,39,02
JoeDees,3.0388,0.15,0.06,9,joedees@bellsouth.net,0,2,0,0,18,8,1,7,0,36,11,4,9,4,7,3,0,2,1,41,08
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