From: Jonathan Davis (jonathan.davis@lineone.net)
Date: Mon Sep 15 2003 - 10:19:07 MDT
I have defined the term twice. It has the antonym pro-American. It has the
synonym America-hating. If one is routinely hostile to France one might
reasonably label one anti-France or Francophobe. That Kitchener or Palmerton
were worried about anti-Brutishness is moot. Worries about anti-British
sentiment were certainly on the minds of imperial administrators where
hearts and minds were concerned in Ireland, India and Africa.
Handy Guide to Understanding the meaning of Anti-[enter nation]
1. pursuing an opposite policy to [enter nation] 2. opposing or hostile to
in opinion, sympathy, or practice to [enter nation] 3. opposing [nation] in
effect or activity 4. combating or defending against [nation].
Regards
Jonathan
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Kharin
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Subject: Re:virus: The Ideohazard 1.1
"This captures a certain mood, personality and class of acts."
Pity it fails to provide a definition though. We are still at the point
where someone with an intense dislike of American film and television must
have the same label as an Islamic terrorist.
"Why can people fully understand someone being an anti-Semite but cannot
understand labelling something anti-American? If one is routinely hostile
towards the USA, I characterize that hostility as anti-American. Simple. "
If one is routinely hostile to France does anyone characterise that
hostility as anti-French? No, of course not. A term that appears to lack
any antonyms or synonyms in common currency, and where equivalent terms do
not exist for any other democratic nation, has some obvious problems. The
anti-semitism parallel is an interesting one, particularly as the term has
been similarly diluted, so that criticism of Israel/Zionism can be
considered anti-semitic irrespective of the actual arguments.
"the term Anti-British had wide currency during the empire precisely because
it was an empire. Perhaps the same is true of the USA?"
I'm not aware that that term was used during the British Empire, except
outside of very specific military contexts. As I said, I don't think it's
the sort of thing Kitchener or Palmerston cared much about. I'll check on it
though.
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