From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Tue Jul 30 2002 - 19:03:18 MDT
On 30 Jul 2002 at 18:32, Casey wrote:
> 
> [Joe]
> I would like us to be more selective about to whom we sell our
> weapons, taking into account their form of government as well as
> whether or not it is tilting in our direction at the time.  But having said
> that, every sovereign nation has the right to make or purchase arms to
> defend its citizens and borders.
>  
> [ben]
> Or attack their neighbors. Or kill their own citizens. As long as somewhere
> in the ruckus, an American corporation makes money...
> 
> [Joe 2] 
> His attacking his neighbors, killing his own citizens with chemical 
> weapons, and attempting to manufacture and obtain weapons of mass 
> destruction are three reasons that we find Saddam Hussein's rule of 
> Iraq unacceptable.  We will not sell weapons to him no matter how 
> much money an american corporation could profit from such a deal.
> 
> [Casey]
> If I remember correctly, the US supported Iraq, and Saddam Hussein, in 
> their war against Iran.   The govt. supplied them with the weaponry and it's 
> explicit support through various means of monetary funding.   At that time, 
> he was also REALLY chummy with the CIA.  Why so?  Because, he was fighting the  
> "enemy" of the US - Iran.   Why wasn't he considered an enemy then?   Didn't the govt.
> have the intelligence to indicate that Iraq was in the midst of possibly having 
> the technology to develop weapons of mass destruction --- I'm referring to 
> nuclear weapons, and not bio/chem weapons; since we all saw the effects 
> those had on the Iranians in combat (hell, even his own troops).  
>
The 1981 Israeli bombing of the under-french-assisted-construction Osirak nuclear 
reactor near Baghdad was, in retrospect, a great decision.
>
> It just seems like the US picks and chooses it's "friends" and "enemies" without 
> seriously considering the consequences.   If the US were truly considering the 
> possibility of these consequences you would think that the US would have been 
> playing the game better.  I mean the US is, after all, one of the most technologically 
> developed nations on this planet.  Didn't we need some brains for that?  Oh, I 
> forgot, technology and the workings of the govt. do not fall under the same brain trust, 
> but I digress. 
> 
> If the US really wants to win the hearts and minds of foreign people, like Dubya says,
> then the govt. should rethink it's implementation of foreign policy.  It's been a bit 
> on the poor side in the last 30 or so odd years.  OK, we can argue that it's been 
> pretty poor longer than that, but lets keep it easy and keep it at that.  
> 
> On the flip side, I think that the US has done good for peoples the world over (we can 
> discuss this further if y'all want).  But, since we are so addicted to petrochemicals the US 
> tends to think in terms of business and economic interests before it begins to even 
> contemplate the misery that those business and economic interests have on the rest 
> of humanity.   
>
The US preferred those two nations duking it out with each other to either of them 
turning its attention elsewhere in the region (as subsequently happened with Iraq). 
>
> Kind regards, 
> Casey 
> 
> ps. I think I suffer from ADHD so my posts may seem all over the place.  My apologies.  
> And, yes, I'm serious!  cheesy
> 
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