From: BIll Roh (billroh@churchofvirus.com)
Date: Fri Jan 11 2002 - 22:39:37 MST
Kalkor, in response to: ", I've been exposed to the CoV for a very short
period of time, and there are many things I'm discovering a need to train
myself to do/not do."
My advise is: Don't listen to anything I have to say - it's all BS - even this
advise is BS.
But I'm glad to have you here - that's not BS
Bill
Kalkor wrote:
> I regret that I misinterpreted the idea of "group thinking". Also, my grasp
> of some terminology is a bit weak, and I don't have hours to compose ;-}
>
> Would "social animals" have been better? And maybe replace "need" with
> "desire", "seek", or something? I admit, I know very little about this
> subject, but I want to LEARN. In answer to Michele's question earlier, I
> think each individual may have a "most important thing", rather than there
> being a universal one. Mine is learning, I suspect. I would rather study
> than eat sometimes ;-/
>
> If you could give me some good links, especially those dealing with
> rudimentary sociolog, ethology, and biosocial psychology, I WILL read them
> ;-} I have time and not much money however, and my library card has expired,
> so books may not be the best way to go.
>
> As I said in a previous post, I've been exposed to the CoV for a very short
> period of time, and there are many things I'm discovering a need to train
> myself to do/not do. Please help me if you see an area I obviously need help
> in, and not just the psychology in this case but also the debate
> fundamentals and the list etiquite.
>
> And thank you for the "good start". It DOES mean a lot to me ;-}
>
> Kalkor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com]On Behalf
> Of Steele, Kirk A
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 3:17 PM
> To: 'virus@lucifer.com'
> Subject: RE: virus: Peep.....peep......... more important than love?
>
> Ok, another OUT OF BOUNDS warning light is going off. (Darwin knows I have
> set off a few of those in my time)
>
> "OUT OF BOUNDS" warning light, simple. It means you are operating out of the
> bounds of your KNOWLEDGE base and flying on belief.
>
> Example "Possibly the need for acceptance and affirmation in herd
> organisms?"
> Herd organisms - animals that exhibit a high need of socialization in order
> to thrive and survive. Bee's, most primates, water buffalo, gazelle, et
> cetera.
>
> Klakor, study some rudamentory sociology and ethology
>
> Bio-social - this terms speaks to a specific branch of psychology, that is
> the other field a rudementary KNOWLEDGE in would greatly assist most in
> here.
>
> And, you didn't address my question, as asked. Although, good start.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kalkor [mailto:kalkor@kalkor.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 1:53 AM
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: RE: virus: Peep.....peep......... more important than love?
>
> The first one that pops into my mind is protection and education of young.
> This is a pretty important one in small- and infrequent-offspring producers
> such as ourselves. This may explain the retention of behaviors such as
> life-mating and child-rearing. Monogamy however? Anyone know much about
> pre-christian "marital" behaviors? Not me...
>
> Possibly the need for acceptance and affirmation in herd organisms? One that
> is self-aware usually wants to know that he/she is accepted by the pack, not
> shunned or exiled. One that is indifferent to kin wouldn't necessarily stay
> with the crowd, and may therefore be culled by good ole nature...
>
> Ooooh, can't think of anymore right now. Good question though!
>
> Kalkor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com]On Behalf
> Of Steele, Kirk A
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 6:10 PM
> To: 'virus@lucifer.com'
> Subject: virus: Peep.....peep......... more important than love?
>
> Love is a hormone. Oxytocin, to be specific. But so what! If it feels
> good............
> Do it!
>
> "as abstract as god".............................giggle
>
> the fluffie-bunny detecter is going "peep.........peep..............peep"
>
> Here are some group-think questions: What are the biosocial precursors of
> extreme emotional attachment? What bio-evolutionary benefits are forwarded
> through the selection of this behavioral tendancy?
>
> Kirkasaurus Wrecks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ghostie [mailto:ghostwmost@msn.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:01 PM
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: RE: virus: more important than love?
>
> There are so many things that we as humans deem important. First we
> have for to establish, wow is one thing important to a process. Food is
> important for nutrition, and society is important for humans. We need
> people. Whether we love them or not that's not important. But how we
> interact with them is. Love is a deep concept, maybe as abstract as
> god. But maybe the two are the same. The presence of love is important
> whether we know it or not. What is more important than love.... life.
>
> Love comes naturally, we don't have to justify it.
>
> ghost
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf
> Of Mermaid .
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:38 AM
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: Re: virus: more important than love?
>
> [Michelle]What really is the most important thing in life, in your
> esteemed
> opinions?
>
> [Mermaid]Integrity.
>
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